But of course there is overwhelming evidence it was the Titanic that sank, which places this particular claim as purely conspiracy conjecture, for which there is no logic, let alone evidence. the number of revolutions some time on Monday or Tuesday to 78, which he claimed would drive the ship at Mr Harold Arthur Sanderson, Director of the Oceanic Steam Navigation Company (not from Harland and Wolff as claimed), 42. Claim: Eyewitnesses themselves describe running along Titanics decks, but where they said there were promenades, there should have been cabins. There are other photographs of Titanic with similar liberties such as the shot of her in Cherbourg at night which has been heavily doctored to look as if it was taken at night with her lights blazing. would have remained in surplus. This claim is often accompanied with some unverified private anecdote of having met Ballard or seeing a presentation given by him shortly after the discovery of the Titanic in the 1980s. White paint on the wreck The ship had never been at According to Titanic researcher Jonathan Smith, "The footing of the wheelhouse should be there, the teak lip that outlines the shape of the wheelhouse.". Photographs taken of Titanic leaving Southampton also reveal a slight port list. performance, only two miles shy of Olympics best ever maiden voyage daily run, and she did that with only 21 Claim: White Star never had any intention of scuttling the ship. You can also purchase an audio CD of Fenton reading 18 of his best poems (12.99) The Olympic and the Britannic were also consistent on the starboard side, with 15 portholes. Since finishing touches were still being put to the ships accommodation, its hardly surprising that the public was not allowed onboard at Southampton. Crewman refused to sail on Titanic Captain Smith on Titanic 4. Titanic prior to her departure on her maiden voyage. The longer they were at sea, the more money it cost. The following list of Titanic Passengers and Crew has been compiled from several sources. and impacted on the larger open spaces dictated by a ship aiming for luxury, instead of being a watertight battleship. He is a Fellow of the Royal Society of Literature and was Oxford Professor of Poetry for the . In the following photographs we can clearly see a curved wheelhouse under construction during Olympic's fitting out stage, firstly just prior to launch and secondly after the launch. So does the post-disaster image of Olympic show the "doubler" overlapping or not? "cargo of a few thousand woolly jumpers and blankets." There were closer ships that would be more feasible. It is the Olympic, not Titanic. Without further information or documentation on this "private flat in the Wirral" -even a photograph - Known for his erudite, politically engaged and technically masterful poems, Fenton's early engagement with Auden left a marked influence on the younger poet's verse. On Olympic the fireplace was at the outer wall between two windows. However, if the panelling had been from Olympic the number would have been 400 not 401." https://www.britannica.com/biography/James-Fenton, The Poetry Archive - Biography of James Fenton, Poetry Foundation - Biography of James Fenton. - Yes. Of course there is no testimony from Ballard himself, or from any of the other expeditions who would clearly have also seen this. Chirnside and Halpern conclude: "There is no doubt that Titanics speed was increased steadily throughout her maiden voyage, revolutions were increased, boilers brought online, and preparations Fenton was also active in the theatre scene. everything else was added. 36. By that time Olympic was at Belfast and underwent a major refit which also included new davits and new lifeboats which were larger than the previous lifeboats.". form near me in the afternoon and had questioned the library steward how he should declare his patent) said, "Well, I am accustomed to estimating distances and I put it at Thirdly, in a picture of Olympic, taken during her 1912/13 refit following the Titanic disaster, this allegedly shows this vessel not to have the 'tell-tale plating' joint, which to 'switch' proponents proves 'conclusively' that the hull pictured is that of Titanic although the name Olympic is clearly visible on both sides of the bow. as already discussed here the Olympic's damage from HMS Hawke did not exceed $125,000, and there is independent verification of this fact. 'Faux' as in false or imitation. Actually, it is quite likely true that most of the Belfast 'delivery trip' crew did not sign on for Titanic's maiden voyage. Act explaining that if they told of the real reason for the sinking, or the In fact footage of this is used in his 1997 blockbuster film "Titanic" and with some creative license he actually places the fictional character of Caledon Hockley in this suite. And the Olympic is actually the Titanic. Again no mention here that lifeboats were seen from B Deck. Secondly, there are many eyewitness accounts and descriptions of an iceberg. Difference in port side joint plating, 20. These above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in the length of Titanic name's hinting at a cover-up. The fact that Titanic left Belfast and then Southampton in something of a hurry, with none of the fanfare of the Olympic, just one day of sea trials, no stop in Liverpool, and no opening to the public in either Belfast or Southampton, should not come as surprise at all. Titanic's speed was investigated by Mark Chirnside and Samuel Halpern in their article entitled "Speed and More Speed" from which the following information is taken. 5. The wind blows through his silver hair. Quite simply Titanic was underinsured, the main reason being that the White Star Line actually insured its own ships. One must also suggest - if those behind the 'switch' were so clever so as to be able to switch absolutely everything aboard Olympic/Titanic as to include the numbers 400/401 etched onto the back of wooden panels in all the state rooms (refer to point here) then how is it they would If not insurance, a switch would keep the company operational, 12. . Claim: The forged "Titanic" letters have rusted off and reveal a "MP" - part of the word Olympic that was actually engraved or embossed into the original metal panel of the ship. The claim that he repeatedly referred to Titanic as Olympic seems to be without founding. 10. 48. Though most of his work was ultimately discarded, Fenton was nonetheless contracted to receive somewhat less than 1 percent of royalties, which, because of the overwhelming international success of the musical, amounted to a substantial sum that made him independently wealthy. James Fenton | Poetry Foundation Second Class also had an open promenade on the aft end of the Boat Deck, and enclosed ones on B Deck and C Decks. Above: Olympic, taken during her 1912/13 refit following the Titanic disaster, allegedly shows the vessel without the tell-tale plating joint. But you do not need any imagination when you view a rather conclusive image that reveals that the 'patchwork' on the wreck does not match the location of the actual damage on the Olympic: Photograph of RMS Olympic showing the location of the damage. THERE IS NO MORE THEORY. (Click to enlarge). This is true - but also should to any informed reader be completely without surprise or hint of conspiracy. Firstly, how would White Star believe they could pull something like this off when no doubt hundreds of crew would see water pouring into the ship through the seacocks? ', When questioned about the 'switch' theory at the Belfast Titanic museum Q&A in 2014, the man who discovered the wreck of the Titanic, Dr Robert Ballard answers: "I think it is the Titanic at the bottom of the ocean. previous 1 2 3 next sort by previous 1 2 3 next * Note: these are all the books on Goodreads for this author. J.P. Morgan and 50 others cancel passage, 25. Ice on the deck was not from an iceberg, 26. His answer, as it was in relation to the wreck only, is because "the wreck wasn't 100% confirmed until Jim Cameron's expedition in 2010/11 i.e. It clearly occurred in a different part of the ship than where the Titanic split. Dr Robert Ballard admitted it was the, 49. Also, fragments of linoleum have been recovered from the wreck, further proving this to be more likely than carpet. exploded and caused the fatal damage. Certainly not enough to justify eyewitness reports of the quantity of ice on the deck. Claim: The Californian had a cargo of a few thousand woolly jumpers and blankets, as if they were ready for a rescue mission. 49. 35. Titanic or Olympic: Which Ship Sank? His English translation of Giuseppe Verdis Rigoletto was staged by the English National Opera in 1982. of the surviving crew. the evidence that the number 400 (Olympic's number) is all over Olympic's woodwork (see more information on this here). Then there's the furniture: so heavy you could hardly lift it. 4. (Click image to enlarge). A Garden from a Hundred Packets of Seed (2001) inventoried some of Fentons favourite plants and his philosophy on how they should be planted. Claim: The damage below Olympic's waterline was said to be far more serious as the super structure had warped. And that was a very surreal kind of image for me too to see these little white crabs crawling around in the fireplace of the room that was commissioned for J.P.Morgan. As for the White Star Line itself, it was the Such falsification and misinformation reveals that 'switch' adherents are sadly not interested in the truth. But also there would be no need to. The full speed of the ship is 78 revolutions. Claim: J. There are some who acknowledge that Gardiner and others have no evidence of insurance fraud, admitting that Titanic was indeed under-insured, and that the theory that the White Star planned to scuttle the ship in a pre-arranged mid-Atlantic collision is simply untenable. If a 'switch' was true, why would you need to create a 'meme' that is demonstrably false, by switching an 'actual' image of Titanic with the Olympic? This is where Gardiner's theory starts to get even more bizarre. Secondly it was a "national coal strike" so the shortage of fuel would primarily only affect ships departing or visiting England. The Hawke impacted the Olympic in the stern area. Numerous ships were stationed nearby despite a coal strike, 27. This claim is often mentioned alongside the above claim about the apparent discrepancy in the number of portholes on Titanic's port side bow. Damage to the Olympic due to its collision with HMS Hawke. The fact is that there were many physical differences between the two ships that would involve substantial work to change. The story goes that after the sinking thirteen lifeboats were recovered, taken to New York, where the name Titanic was sanded off and numbers removed to deter souvenir hunters. Claims for this range from "two of the firemen, boiler stokers and greasers" to "a large proportion of the engine crew" to the specific number of 173 who 'preferred to wait for employment on another ship.' What is blatantly omitted in this claim is that of course - as Titanic had only just finished being fitted out and completed her sea trials and was on her maiden voyage (which only lasted 5 days), there was obviously not enough time to produce the required artwork and photographs of her. Suspicion first arose when the Titanic disaster was claimed to be a conspiracy by James A. Fenton, otherwise known as "Paddy the Pig." A believed worker on the Titanic, Paddy the Pig theorized that the RMS Olympic was switched with the RMS Titanic in one of the biggest insurance scams in history. Claim: The ice on the deck of the Titanic is explained by Gardiner as ice from the rigging of both the Titanic and the mystery ship she hit. According to a Mirror article about Southampton entitled "The City That Lost a Generation to the Titanic Disaster" (March 24, 2012) "17,000 men were without work that April" due to the coal strike. "Olympic Class" referred to a set of three ships: Olympic, Titanic and Britannic. Difference in Titanic's windows on B deck Titanic advertising used photographs and artwork of the. It would have been a press scoop. This claim is of course connected to the previous claim that the ship hit, instead of an iceberg, an IMM rescue ship that was drifting with its lights out. It is a wild claim based purely on imagination. Discoloured plating on Titanic A post disaster image of Olympic shows the plating joint has disappeared, revealing she is in fact Titanic. Some also claim that the reason some crew did not sign up was specifically because 'the only thing that could not be made to look new were the ship's boilers, having already been used for 12 months on Olympic before the switch' and noticing this on the Belfast to Southampton crossing they decided to 'get off' at Southampton. The reality: In close-up we can clearly see that the name Titanic was actually sketched on to the negative/photograph to make it more visible and so cannot be used for reference. 15. As in the previous points, we know that damage to the Olympic did not include a 'warped keel'. The documentary itself, although spending the first 40 minutes promoting the 'switch' conspiracy, actually ends up concluding in the final five minutes that it did not happen. They would only be interested in shorter crossings. Once it was launched then it was 'fitted out' i.e. There is nothing here that reveals a 'switch'. 2. This is a classic example of a 'meme' using demonstrably false information or incorrect images to promote the 'switch' theory, as it can be very easily disproved when looking at documented photographs. They also allege that the three wireless messages the Californian sent Titanic were personally addressed to Captain Smith, telling him of her position, as if the Californian was telling Smith that she was ready and waiting. saw a lot of iceon the deck 46. However, in December 1911, during Titanic's fit out, she had 2 added to light the crews galley and wash room which resulted in a total of 16 as seen in the maiden voyage photographs. Only a limited number of changes required for a switch, 8. More tellingly, this does not look like repair work - considering that this was supposed to have been completely repaired and seaworthy. Olympic officers on the bridge the game. (for more information see here). Also a sealed design would have restricted access to certain parts of the ship This misunderstanding may be one of the reasons why this particular 'theory' holds fast despite its obvious answer. (British Enquiry (Day 3) Olympic survived too long for a badly damaged ship Any discolouration could be explained as due to lighting conditions and/or photographic imperfections. - Yes. Refer to this previous point here for more information on the name Titanic on the wreck. This line of reasoning goes with the assumption that Olympic's keel was damaged, for which there is no evidence as discussed in the point above. Surviving crew signed the Official Secrets Act, 35. 2. Some go as far as to state that 'Lloyd's paid out $12,500,000'. Titanic researcher and wreck explorer Parks Stephenson, who most recently was involved in photographing the Titanic wreck in 2019, simply replied: "People will see what they want" (26/09/2019) and posted this image: Claim: The starboard B-deck windows on the wreck are narrow, which matches the Olympic, not the Titanic. (Click image to enlarge). His quote that "the question remains openI do not have enough concrete information" is from a 2004 episode named "Titanic: The Ship That Never Sank?" Please refer to the appropriate style manual or other sources if you have any questions. overlook something as simple as the number of portholes on the outside of the ship? The Titanic was carefully inspected nearly every day during her construction and again after arriving in Southampton. Two libretti and an oratorio were published as The Love Bomb (2003). her full speed if the weather cooperated. 15 $18.4 17.55 Silver Cricket Fob Recess Antiques 85.00 $104.27 99.42 Silver & M,O,P Fruit Knife.Sheff.1910 By J.Fenton. Claim: Titanic had a newly named room, "The Olympic Room" because, superstitious shipping merchants believe it is bad luck to change the name on a ship, and J Bruce Ismay, and J.P. Morgan thought it best to have the Olympic's name still somewhere on board. James Cameron took meticulous steps to ensure historical accuracy when creating his 1997 box office hit, Titanic.Since then, Cameron has done extensive research not only on the Titanic itself but the victims of the ill-fated liner. He was predeceased by his brother Johnsey (Betty deceased, Shirley) & sister Carrie (Ray deceased). 39. For many years afterward its port and starboard White Star insignia were used as prizes by a local Sea Scout group. There were no plates or anything that could be swapped over- the name was literally engraved into the ship, then filled in with paint. by passengers and crew familiar with the Olympic? Local "runners". Which brings us to a total of at least 1047 aboard the Carpathia on the night of the Titanic disaster. The difference in windows on B-deck between the time of her launch and her maiden voyage is explained by one of the key differences between the two ships: Take the dining saloon. So that makes it 3 vessels in the area. ", Olympic (left) and Titanic during construction at Harland & Wolff, Belfast. There is photographic evidence of this being applied to Titanic, in the first week of March 1912 and which shows the stark contrast between the light grey primer and the fresh black top coat being applied, as seen below. The Olympic, like the Titanic, was fitted originally with the same 14-porthole arrangement on the port side of her focsle, but 2 additional portholes were later fitted; they were there in March 1912. Let's examine an 'actual' documented photograph of Titanic's starboard forward B-deck: Titanic's starboard side, taken around noon on April 11th, 1912, as she is anchored outside Queenstown, Ireland, to take on passengers. Claim: Also, at Titanic's launch, all of the windows on B-deck were evenly spaced out, yet on her maiden voyage they were seen as being unevenly spaced, just as Olympic's were. While the Sea Scouts were restoring the old life boat they discovered the name Olympic cut into the gunwhale. Claim: How can a ship with a bent keel go on to serve 24 years (1911-1935) without being fully repaired? Skip to Content. Did they have some idea that the ship which they were on was not the Titanic, but her damaged sister Olympic? But this should not misconstrued as anything unusual, but common practice for a company which suddenly comes under media scrutiny and wants to maintain Interestingly, Gardiner himself has admitted the image is fake. 23. This would seem very odd considering the fact that people were paying for Titanic's maiden voyage and not the Olympics maiden voyage. Claim: The surviving crew were detained overnight and forced to sign a pledge under the 'Official Secrets Act', promising to keep secret forever, the actual events of the night of 14th / 15th April, 1912. 11 [American Inquiry, Day 7]. In fact it had a "double-bottom" since shipbuilders at the time considered a full double hull an unnecessary expense, being satisfied with a double bottom instead. 1,496 people are believed to have died when the Titanic went down. Olympic was the first to be launched, pronounced the largest and most luxuriest ship in the world. If he had indeed mentioned it at a presentation why did it not become substantial news at the time? Mr Reginald Fenton Butler was born in Portsmouth, Hampshire, England over the summer months of 1886. 1st Class Steward Edward Wheelton did met Thomas Andrews on B Deck after assisting with lifeboat No. off the bell. Does it reveal evidence of suspicious or unusual damage? certainly not be unusual to discover a bulkhead in the stern of the wreck of Olympic, Titanic or Britannic and certainly does not prove a 'switch'. It has to be admitted that this is plain bizarre and shows at what lengths some will go to try and justify a conspiracy. Some have analysed the footage concluding for example that the X-shaped viewing field seen in the video is caused by the camera rig's lighting. Claim: Titanic had 14 bow portholes. Another key component of the 'switch' theory is to state that damage to HMS Hawke was much more substantial. 34. 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